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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 8:55:00 GMT
Yet none of said cuts have actually happened yet  Discuss the issues |
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 8:59:27 GMT
*googles GDP to get involved in argument*
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 9:10:08 GMT
Ahhh, I understand now.
To be fair they have a point about the snow being a major factor.
Labour >>>> tories
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Post by Moorsey on Jan 26, 2011 9:10:57 GMT
You are WRONG Bungle.
I agree with the GDP. I think.
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 9:26:48 GMT
Ahhh, I understand now. To be fair they have a point about the snow being a major factor. Labour >>>> tories You do realise if Labour had won the election you'd be paying more national insurance so work-shy cunts up and down the country didn't have to pay more in VAT? |
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 9:35:07 GMT
Everything the tories have done so far has been shit.
Student rises, the uks brightest future doctors may now not be able to afford to live the dream, making them take up working class jobs, leading to more crime/unemployment.
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Post by camred on Jan 26, 2011 9:43:45 GMT
Politics is for people who care about other humans and the world we live in I care about neither  |
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 10:05:34 GMT
I don't care about politics, I just know the wrong people are running our country.
How deceiving is it for someone to join 'funland' to be greeted by this
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 10:11:40 GMT
You should be grateful there's been more than 1 fucking thread in a day  It's not the 1980s anymore, what are 'working class jobs'? 'Student rises'? You mean making students pay more so universities can offer better degrees instead of media studies and endless shite no employer wants? UK doctors get fucking shit loads, their pay is ridiculous and hours strictly 9-5 in most surgeries, if that's putting people off training to be doctors then fuck them the ungrateful cunts; debt is a fact of life I'm afraid |
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 10:21:51 GMT
Working class jobs are jobs that people leaving school can get, at the moment there isn't enough of them as there is, if people with the knowledge and desire to be a doctor, vet, spaceman or whatever can't afford to study for it then there will be even more competition for the jobs for the working class jobs.
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 10:48:21 GMT
They won't pay till they graduate and get at least 21k. Degrees cost money, the state can't afford to subsidise 50% of the population to go to university
You sill haven't explained what 'working class jobs' are... to me they're manual labour jobs you don't need much of an academic education to do. There's plenty of these but most people don't want to do them, hence why so many Polish and others come over
NEXT
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 10:51:06 GMT
I agree with you on what working class jobs are, I don't agree that there are many available.
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 10:53:13 GMT
Unfortunately, the jobcentre disagrees with you
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 11:07:32 GMT
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 11:52:33 GMT
So unless there's a job you don't need any training for within 5 miles you'd rather sit on the dole, is that what you're saying working class people in your area are doing?
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 12:02:38 GMT
But you only get £30 quid a week when you're doing an apprentiship, it takes about 3 years.
The cost of lifes essentials now couldn't be bought with £30 quid a week.
It's not financially appealing to learn a trade.
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 12:29:29 GMT
I'm sure they get more than in work related benefits etc., you get more than that on Jobseekers
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 12:35:05 GMT
I'm sure they get more than in work related benefits etc., you get more than that on Jobseekers I did one when I was younger, i got £30 a week, and couldn't get a benefit. |
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 12:36:18 GMT
That would've been when Labour were in...
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Post by Bungle on Jan 26, 2011 12:40:08 GMT
yeah but i left it and walked straight into a job within a week.
I don't think I could do that now
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Post by sertz on Jan 26, 2011 12:58:45 GMT
Maybe not, but that hasn't suddenly come about in just 6 months of this government, unemployment was already in the millions when the election happened and hasn't significantly moved since
I think the current employment reality and what certain sections of society like to believe based on political allegiances are 2 completely different things unfortunately, it's a pity because millions up and down the country voted in the Tories, not simply rich southerners
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